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SIRT Training Pistol

I had no idea that this SIRT Training Pistol even existed, but I’m glad The Survival Mom pointed it out. Apparently, this training tool is meant to help you control your trigger pull and even breathing… now that’s cool! You can learn more about the training pistol here and even purchase one if you like. Here’s the first part of the post:

A couple of months ago I was approached by Britt Lentz of Next Level Training, asking if I would like to test their SIRT Training Pistol. His claim was pretty bold:

We have a product that is going to change the world of handgun training. It is the SIRT training pistol, a self diagnostic high volume training system.

Well, where handgun training is concerned, I’m all in, so I gladly accepted their kind offer.

When the SIRT Performer 110 arrived, it was very similar in size and weight to a Glock 19, a pistol I’m pretty familiar with. Britt had encouraged me to watch the training videos that can be found on YouTube, and I also received a helpful training DVD. He kept emphasizing, “Remember the key is dots not dashes. Really make sure that on the break the shot indicating laser makes a dot( does not move all over the place), not a dash (a streak of laser across the target).”

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8 comments to SIRT Training Pistol

  • Follow Up Point: Another note about a resetting trigger, I found this to be critical for a few reasons. The main reason is simple time management. When I had had to break my grip and rack the slide each time I found this fairly annoying and honestly not really sustainable. Now we have to drive fire with our live fire gun as a block in our training but the other practical factor is I can’t have my live fire gun lying around the office desk. So the act of rapid shots consequently where we fuel the reset have full follow through with full take up and break that second shot and trains full trigger mechanics cycles and honestly that is where I see a lot of trigger mechanic deficiencies in mobile flip when people hammer rapid shots. As an example I’m a big proponent of rapid shot drills (bill drills) when I live fire. However when I first do this drill with just a SIRT I’m amazed how many people have such poor trigger mechanics that they’re not even close to being within an acceptable accuracy zone and there’s no even recoil involved.

    This leads into the diagnostics side of dividing and conquering issues identifying deficiencies and remedying them which is a huge topic and beyond the scope of this but an interesting methodology. Finally as I noted above I’m a huge proponent of a heavier, crummier trigger in training. Although we can make the SIRT triggers feel awesome!…. this does not support best training practices. I have to say a lot of strong hand?only shooting (without the support of the weak hand) to mask trigger mechanic deficiencies and a heavy trigger has jacked my performance up immensely. That fact alone has probably had the biggest effect other than the No. 1 factor of integrating live fire and drive fire on the range to increase the volume and effectiveness of the live fire rounds. It’s kind of like swinging that heavy bat.

  • Hi Rass,
    I don’t intend to jump in the party late here but I have a few concepts to massage into the mix. By way of background I developed the SIRT for my own training. When I first started shooting, I really looked at it from a sports science background, being a big, dumb football player (ex?football player, that is a has-been and a never-was :) ). But I notice all the skill sets of draws, reloads, awkward shooting position, TRIGGER CONTROL probably the granddaddy of fundamentals, and also observed that I should train these in high volume. Of course I noted recoil was a huge factor but also a function of a consistent grip and stance. So I treaded towards dry fire. And I eventually made a dry fire tool with an auto-resetting trigger, a glockmeister trigger with a laser shabby welded into an old glock frame. I soldered up a switch and voila I had shot indication and a resetting trigger. Honestly this was only for shooting on the move. I was concerned I’d go target focus and things like that at first with a tool. It took me four months to understand the full utility of this Poof of concept. Now take a step back four months and I invented it so it is really difficult to get the value proposition across in a few minutes.

    But here is some food for thought. Heavy trigger:

    I used to be of the mindset I wanted to make the trigger exactly like my live-fire gun. I messed around for example back in the day with resetting triggers and dry mold so they were as similar as possible. Now I think there is huge benefit to training with your live-fire gun and fueling your exact trigger break but honestly my training pistols I use now are heavier, I have a lot of creep and a lot of extra over travel. Why, I find that more adverse triggers builds trigger control all the more. I’m at the point now where I actually compete with a simple Glock 19 and a stock trigger. I see no performance benefit of lightening that up to a 3?pound trigger even in that controlled environment of competition where I could use such tools (outside of concealed carry). Now I still have some models with light trigger, I still dry fire with my live-fire gun and moreover before going concealed carry I’ll do a few trigger pulls with my life-fire gun (usually five is my number) and load it up and conceal it away and start my day. Bad habits:

    There is always potential for bad habits with any training tool or system. It’s why training and knowledge is always critical. As I noted above I was first concerned about laser training devices because it would make me go obsessively target focused. Ironically I found the opposite to be true. The reason is the laser impulse (the green shot light indicating laser) is AFTER the trigger break. Now there is a risk of shooters walking into shots and we try to make people aware of that potential risk. I’ve seen this with live fire as well where some shooters walk in the shots to a center location within an acceptable accuracy zone. I can go into detail on a whole training regiment but if it’s a difficult shot you line up, you break the shot, when you miss you miss. And that instant feedback tells you wow I should have had more site awareness or there was a laser sweep a dash not a dot. I should have had better trigger control and broken that shot without disturbing that muzzle, etc. From here I could branch off into 50 topics but the big thing for me is high-volume self-diagnostic sustainable training. I think other tools have a great purpose such as traditional dry fire, air soft, sims, UTM, etc. Of course live fire is critical. It is not our position in the company to cut live fire at all but rather, when we do live fire let’s get the most out of those rounds. Let’s focus live fire on the recoil management drills to validate grip and stance, let’s integrate live and dry fire to do drills, work them dry, build the muscle memory, then do one set live and in a great recoil management to make sure that muzzle is coming down at a consistent location. In the end of the day it’s about training. The academic evidence and common sense is clear that high-volume training is necessary. This really means a convenient factor of picking up a tool with low barriers to entry, low overhead, and get training in quickly. It’s why I still use my SIRT pistol daily (my goal is seven short five-minute training sessions a day). I can pick the gun up, be totally un?calibrated and see where I’m at. I can shoot near targets with natural point of aim or far targets and have to reference the sites more. I get instant feedback which aids in the diagnostics. Sometimes I have a clean hit outside an acceptable zone where it’s a clean dot indicating trigger mechanics were actually dialed in but my muzzle alignment was poor (so now it’s an issue of bad natural point of aim or lack of awareness to sites depending on factors).

    The final component is all this high-volume training has to be sustainable. Having low overhead where you can pick it up and train anytime is actually a huge factor. In fact it’s fun and any kind of target like light switches functions as an acceptable accuracy zone changes things up a lot and makes it more enjoyable. The fact that natural apparatuses such as tables, chairs, a chest of drawers in your house, your toolbox in your garage with drawers pulled out to make barricades… all these vary the environment up to pull us out of our comfort zone and recognize deficiencies where we have so many deficiencies and awkward shooting and compromised positions.

    In the end, I’m not trying to sales pitch. I’m just trying to throw some ideas out there in the mix because I’m by no means saying we should become dry fire nazis or reduce the amount of live fire. When I hit the range (honestly it’s about three times per week right now, home range :), I can work on deficiencies that surfaced through my dry?fire training and when I hit drills I hit them 100 miles per hour where I’ve ironed out a lot of the mechanics upstream in my home base and the gym.

    Take care all. If you have any questions feel free to email or phone me. mike@NextLevelTraining.com 360 284 4205 Mike Hughes

    • Mike, I like the fact that you’re so enthused about your SIRT training pistol. More importantly, I believe you have created yet another useful tool when it comes to aiding an individual with proper firearms training. While it may not be to everyones liking, I do see significant benefit to such a device. Thank you for taking the time to better explain the purpose.

  • rassd71

    I know a few people that swear by these and similar ‘dry fire’ training tools. Personally, I think they’re a waste of money and CAN give you some BAD habits. You are far better off training with your actual carry or use firearm. For starters, the trigger on YOUR firearm, may be very different from the training device. Additionally weight and feel may be (and usually are) VERY different. If you’re concerned about dry firing your firearm, get snap caps (as was suggested above). They can be had very reasonably online and from many retailers.
    as an example:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battenfeld-9mm-Luger-Set-of-5-Nice-Snap-Caps-/360491837180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53eefce6fc

    I am not associated with that seller, just one of the first ones that came up in a quick search. I personally have them for each of my pistol calibers, so that I can train with my actual firearms. That way the weight, balance, grip size and trigger pull and length are all what I will actually need to be using. There is NO substitute for live fire training, but this is a great way to train. I also use them for training on reloads & mag changes, just to be safer! They are also nice when demonstrating or teaching the kids about them… that way there are NO live rounds anywhere around at the time!

    Just my 2 cents, don’t waste your money, buy another handgun or some ammo and train with what you have!

  • Rick

    Pricey
    Get the real thing. Dry fire practice while moving around the house. Get some caps if your worried about dry firing.
    Now you’ll have a better feel for your gun.

    • Good point too but I think the real benefit to it is that it helps train you to use proper trigger control. I guess if I had the money then I might consider it as yet another training tool.

  • Jen

    This might be something that works for me too. I’ll have my hubby look into it. Thank you.